I don’t mind at all. 🙂 I don’t have a close up pic of the ironstone yet. There is no bottom mark on it. The other is a Haviland, and I found the pattern. I appreciate your information!! I think I have about 1,000 items to start putting in my Etsy shop. So far I have only put 50 items in there since last October and I have sold about 20….. Just need to have a day when I can photograph and post. 🙂