I would like to know the maker, period, and possible worth of this children’s doll dinnerware that I may sell. Given the following numbered details, I will be very appreciative of any help identifying this set/sets.
1. These dishes may be 2 incomplete sets. I am drawn to that conclusion because there are 16 plates. Of the 16 plates, 2 each show the same scene, giving me a total of 8 slightly different scenes.
2. I have been told that it was likely made in France or Bavaria around 1920 to 1930.
3. There are two items that appear to be normal adult sized pieces with identical patterns as the small ones. One is a damaged covered sugar bowl and the other is also a bowl, but I am unsure what type. (It reminds me of a rice bowl.)
4. The only piece that has a mark of any type, other than a few with a small empty circle in the middle of the bottom of the piece, is the one that reminds me of a rice bowl. It has a rather faint handwritten N and an empty circle in the middle of the bowl. Because of its size, the N actually goes through part of the empty circle. I am including a filtered picture along with others because the N and circle can be seen better that way.
I will be happy to supply additional photos, but will upload the maximum size alloted here.
Thank you so much. Vickie Likis
Old Paris is simply a broad term for any pottery made around that area !! Like Capodimonte in Italy,, anyone in that region can use that mark !! Its just regional !! Most now just use that term for anything similar because it sounds better/more expensive than “Made in Japan”!! If you are going to sell it you can certainly use thhat term if you wish but if it were me,, I would say “Old Paris ” style,, not that it definitely was Old Paris !! That way you don`t get bit in the butt !!
Martha Hill, the pieces are all slightly or obviously different from one another. Hand-painted? Could this be Old Paris? I saw similar (sota kinda) scenes in a few photos of pieces that said they were Old Paris. Most looked much more expensive than my set though. If I can find them again, I will attach herewith. (Remember, I am guessing about all of this. Until two nights ago I had never heard the term Old Paris. 🙁 😉 ) Thanks to you and anyone else that may respond.
Thats kind of what I thought you would find !! The ones with the circle would simply be mold flaws which is common !! I am sure the person you asked about the set was just looking at the pic and assuming it was made somewhere in Europe !! But that is not always correct although I would not say it was definitely not made there !! But what I have seen from those regions was usually a better quality artwork !! I would be interested to know if this is indeed hand painting or transfer ware !! But the only way to tell is to find the items that are slightly different and see if that difference is repeated on any others !! The gold would have been done separately and by hand !!
These things were done with one intent,, to get them ready to sell quickly !! The people who worked at the pottery were paid according to the number of items completed and were ordinary people with no specific training !! Sometimes even a cottage industry and then sold back to the pottery !! The workers were given a few instructions and then put on the line !! Most were women and teens !! It was how they helped feed the family !!
Unfortunately there is no way to know where or what factory these came from !! I think you have at least two child sets !! As to the larger pieces,, I have never seen adult sts as poorly done that would have been sold with the child sets !! What they would have done is different sets geared for adults with the same artwork or transfer !! Like sugar and creamer sets and yes,, even rice bowl sets !!
Anything you need clarification on please ask,,,but right now I need another cup of coffee !! 😀
You are not breaking any rules at all,,!! Usually those that ask questions do not post enough pics !! The center circle can be a result of the molding process when these dishes are made !! Is it the same on all of the pieces or is it on just a few of the same or similar shape ?? 1940 to about 1970 was the heyday for these sets !! I had quite a few in the 1950`s !! Most were Japanese imports and from the artwork on yours,, thats what it appears to be !! Usually they came in a box with the importers name and occasionally the Mfrs name !! Some had a “Made in Japan” stamp on the larger pieces and some used a stick on label !!
How did you acquire this set ??
The set was an estate sale find. I checked the pieces for the circle on the bottom. The only ones that have the circle are the sugar bowl and the bowl I think looks like a rice bowl. Those are the pieces that are much larger, likely belonging to an adult size set of dinnerware of the same pattern. Were the adult sets often/ever made with a matching children’s play set?
Unfortunately, there was no box or a stick on label. I showed it to a reseller who gave it a cursory look to see if she wanted to purchase it. However, she only buys/sells the ones made in America. She is the person that said it looked like pieces out of France or Bavaria during the 20’s or 30’s.
Thank you for your response and please let me know if you think of anything else that might help me identify it.
Good idea. I do not want or need any butt biting. 🙂 In cases like this, when you don’t know what you have nor any idea what it might bring how do handle it? I know it is only worth what someone is willing to pay but I don’t want to set myself up to just give things away. I just started on eBay and have already had a couple of instances where I ended up in the red and minus the item. It’s all good, as I am learning from my mistakes, but a little profit for my effort would be nice. Thanks!