I have spent so many hours (at least 40) reading books and looking at websites trying to identify this piece.
I recently acquired a porcelain pitcher and bowl from an estate sale, and the previous owner’s daughter believed the item to be more than 200 years old. On the bottom of both the pitcher and bowl is an incised mark that looks like a very loopy scripted “CC” on one, but more like an “E” on the other. One is marked with a “/75” and one is marked with a “75.” I found a similar mark in the “E” section of Kovels database that had “1779” under the loopy “E.” The only information it provided was that it was from Derby, England. In an out-of-print book I found online, I found a “CC” as a pottery mark that looked similar, but the only information it had was that it was from the 1700s and its country of origin was England. A few of the other items I collected from this estate were from the 1700s, and it came from a mansion in historic Lynchburg, VA.
The picture I attached has an image of the pitcher and bowl, as well as the two signatures. I darkened the signatures to make it easier to see on the image.
Can anyone provide me with any information about this piece? Has anyone ever seen anything like it? Do you believe that the “E” in the Kovels database is the same as the one on this pitcher?
Any comments, helpful tips, etc. would be appreciated. I’m an amateur to collecting, and this piece is so beautiful to me. I’ve never seen anything like it (not exactly), and I can’t stop thinking about it until I have some answers. :woohoo:
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Thank you again, ato55mic. that number really doesn’t give me much information at all, then, does it? haha, at least i can stop trying to look according to year. i really haven’t seen anything even resembling my set with regards to the shape. the other set i got from that house was a very typical “ironstone england” blue and white set. i have a few other sets, but something about this one just “feels” special. i suppose i will just have to be content with just not knowing anything about it, but i’m stubborn.
A few companies like Royal Worcester have a dating system in their marks and some used a design registration mark which maybe dated but apart from that almost no cermanics are dated on the base.
Numbers on the base usually refer to the shape, size, deocration or some system of production numbering. With very well resrached companies a date may be deduced from thos but even that is rare.
ato55mic,
I didn’t mean that I bought the subscription to get a person to help me out, I just mean that I paid to see the information associated with the curly “E” in the pottery marks section (as pictured above in the screenshot).
I do appreciate very much your response, because I had no idea that washstand sets were small until the Victorian era. The house I got the washstand from (an estate sale) was full of priceless antiques, and everything was immaculate. I do agree, though, that the piece looks too new to be that old, even if it was well cared for. I hadn’t even thought about the color palette.
I wonder if the “75” means 1975, then? Thank you again. That was very educational.
I don’t think anyone is paid to answer questions here. It’s just volunatry like most forums of this type.
The subsription is only to access the marks as far as I know.
The E on your piece does not match the mark but even if it did, one letter is not really enough to go on. Marks such as this one are very easily replicated so should be taken in conjuction with other features of the piece.
The is a washstand set. Washstands tended to be quite small in size until the Victorian era. Too small for this set.
The style of your set is a particularly florid Rococo most prevalent in the late Victorian / Edwardian era circa 1880-1910. However I suspect that it’s a much later reproduction. The transfer printed decoration is too sparse and in a modern palette. The whole thing looks too new.
This is just my opinion. I may be wrong.